Fed Up With “God”

God is God, right? By that I mean that the Christian God, the Jewish G*d, the Islamic God… they are all one in the same being. All three religions share similar stories, prophets, beliefs…

Why then would this God tell different people different things?

He tells the Jews they are His chosen people. He gives the Christians His son to die for their sins. He tells the Muslims to establish His kingdom on Earth. He says ‘Thou shalt not kill’ to Moses, but then has Mohammed proclaim, ‘The sword is the key of heaven and hell; a drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah, a night spent in arms, is of more avail than two months of fasting or prayer…’

An omnipotent and omniscient being who created the Universe exists out of Space and Time (and, of course, SpaceTime). 1000BC, 30AD, 2006CE, ‘last week’ have no meaning to Him. The creator of the Universe exists at all Times and throughout all Space. He is the Alpha and the Omega. The Beginning and the End.

The word of God is the ‘Word of God’. The Creator of the Universe is perfect and cannot make mistakes. Clearly then what information he possess is correct at the first moment he reveals it to His Creation. He can’t ‘change His mind’.

The Torah, the Bible and the Koran are clearly all imperfect. One book says ‘An eye for an eye’, another says, ‘Turn the other cheek’. One book says that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, was crucified and ascended to Heaven, another says that he was a prophet, *wasn’t* killed, yet ascended to Heaven alive. One book says that Christ is the end of the law for everyone who believes, then 600 years later someone else comes along who’s actually ‘the final prophet’. One book says that anyone who believes in the Koran, the Torah and Jesus, and ‘work righteousness’, shall have their reward with the Lord, later on the same book says ‘slay them (the infidels) wherever you catch them.’

Now either God has made mistakes which, if I believed in Him, I’d think was pretty damned unacceptable and I’d be seeking some kind of investigation into His suitability as Ultimate Power Over The Universe and might even urge for an impeachment process to begin immediately OR, as is actually the case, all of those books were written by *humans* who, as is obvious to all, are capable of extreme error (look at Hitler, Milosevic, Saddam and Paul McCartney’s post-Wings career for some examples of this).

At what point are people of all religions going to understand that they can’t use their belief in the infallibility of *their* god as a justification for behaving badly against other human beings? At what point are they going to take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming some made-up deity? At what point are religious people going to wake up and realise that they are wasting their one and only life on a fantasy world? At what point are they going to accept that they are wrong?

I’m fed up with them all.

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19 Responses to “Fed Up With “God””
  1. vince says:

    I put a paperback Bible, a Book of Mormon, and a paperback Quran in the side table of our second bedroom for visitors. Did it to freek out one of our visitors…..

  2. ellipsis says:

    Love your work. This led me to rediscover a quote from http://www.chrisbeach.co.uk/viewQuotes.php

    “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” Stephen Roberts.

    A sweet and compelling argument; except faith is about belief. It cannot be discovered, or discouraged through logic.

    Fine. But then let’s rephrase the “my faith tells me to…” into the more accurate “my illogical faith tells me to…”.

    The assumption of superiority is so annoying when it is so poorly supported.

  3. giagia says:

    *Brilliant* quote, ellipsis. I also loved this one on that page:

    “When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn’t work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me.”- Emo Phillips

  4. Adam says:

    Interesting, but you are essentially attacking a straw man: those religions (usually) claim that their holy books are writings by humans inspired by God, not written by God.

    And there’s a world of difference between the two.

  5. R.J. says:

    You know well enough that my sentiments on the subject mirror yours, Gia, but surely poor old Paul doesn’t deserve inclusion alongside such rogues as Hitler, Milosevic and Saddam? I appreciate he’s made errors of judgement of late, but then – who hasn’t?

  6. giagia says:

    Adam,

    I certainly didn’t mean that God sat down at his Mac and typed out each of those books. He *inspired* others to write them. Clearly that divine inspiration should be perfect? Still why does God say different things to different people?

    The people who believe that the books were written by people influenced by their own time and society and sould therefore *not* be taken literally are the ‘liberals’ or ‘moderates’ of all three of those religions. Those people aren’t threatening, bombing, attacking or killing others because of their beliefs.

    The people who believe that their book is actually, literally the word of God are the ones who are fucking everything up.

    Truly though if God did create the Universe and he wanted to communicate with us, do you really think he would have done it in book form? He’s the Creator of the Universe for goodness sake! Books are for Devils… He would have put his message in every cell, every, atom, every proton, every neutron, every quark, every squark and right smack bang in the middle of the the Higgs-Boson…

    RJ- I’m not so sure you’re right. ‘The Frog Chorus’ clearly one of the worst attrocities of the 80s…

  7. r says:

    The followers of each religion seem to believe that theirs is the only true faith and that all those other gods are false. I might expect to see a pig sprout wings if I ever heard W contend that Jaweh and Allah are the same as his Christian God. I agree with you: God is God, no matter the name. But those who believe in such an almighty delude themselves into thinking that they know the truth and everything else is hogwash. And you cannot apply logic to religious thinking. Of course there are contradictions in the “written word” of all faiths. But it is there for people to find faith and comfort, and they tend to overlook those nagging little inconsistencies. Jerome Lawrence and Robert E. Lee pointed this out in quite a dramatic fashion in the play, “Inherit the Wind,” (a dramatization of the infamous Scopes “Monkey Trial”), in the climactic scene where the defense attorney, Henry Drummond, calls the prosecuting attorney, Matthew Harrison Brady, to the stand. Drummond masterfully points out the contradictions and inconsistencies of the Bible and leaves Brady stammering to try and rebut. And he makes a mockery of the prosecution’s attack on Bertram Cate’s right to teach Darwin in his classroom.

    While it is logical to reach the conclusion that there is no god, it leaves one wondering what happens when we expire. Do we simply return to the earth in the form of decaying matter or ash? No spirit, no force remains behind? Or is our only spirit really the electrical field that we emit and that continues without form after our bodies are no longer living to contain it? Or do we become part of the energy of the universe and continue to exist as the wind, the water, the earth, the dust? Do we hurtle about the cosmos at will, finally free from the petty entrapment of flesh and bone? I’d like to believe that last one. But I suspect that the reality is that our time of consciousness in All Time is brief and nothing will go on for me after my heart stops.

    Ah, Gia, you do make me think. Perhaps the only “stuff” of us that continues is what we leave behind–our work, our children, our words. You are certainly building your legacy. If there is an after life, I hope you are one of its journalists.

  8. giagia says:

    R- *blush*

    But the Christian God *IS* the same as the Muslim God. ‘Allah’ is merely a word for God. Arab Christians worship ‘Allah’…

    What part of us continues after we die? The things we did when we were alive remain in others.

  9. giagia says:

    Oh John. I was hoping for something positive…

  10. vince says:

    Islam was started because Christians and Jews were fighting and set up separate things and got it wrong so Mohamed recited the truth to sort out the people who where setting up incorrect religions.

    or at least that is how I read the Qoran. It’s actually a pretty good read for the time.

    p.s I also put a Common book of Payer in the side table.. just to make old Hank happy.

  11. giagia says:

    When I was in Japan, along with the Gideon Bible, there was a copy of the Buddhist Scriptures… I liked that.

    The Buddha rocked.

  12. Jas says:

    I never met a god I liked.

    Except for the small furry one who lives with Rachel, who is quite sweet (and, we now discover, is very fond of Bach…)

  13. giagia says:

    My furry god is pretty wicked, too. In both senses of the word.

  14. jas says:

    On a somewhat similar note, I made a posting about evolution and creation today. I am not sure if this is an invocation of the anthropic principle or not.

  15. Adam says:

    Clearly that divine inspiration should be perfect?

    The inspiration should be prefect, sure. Transcription, translation and comprehension are all pretty open to human error, though…

    Still why does God say different things to different people?

    Because, not all religions can be true, by definition (unless you’re a new age, pick’n’mix type). So, therefore, some religions are either in error, or are active acts of deception. Or, indeed, all are false.

    The people who believe that the books were written by people influenced by their own time and society and sould therefore *not* be taken literally are the ‘liberals’ or ‘moderates’ of all three of those religions. Those people aren’t threatening, bombing, attacking or killing others because of their beliefs.

    Quite agree.

    The people who believe that their book is actually, literally the word of God are the ones who are fucking everything up.

    Quite agree. Especially those who are unable to reassess their understanding of those texts in the light of scientific evidence. *peers over his specs across the Atlantic towards the US*

    Truly though if God did create the Universe and he wanted to communicate with us, do you really think he would have done it in book form? He’s the Creator of the Universe for goodness sake!

    Well, the Christians I know believe that God communicates directly to you, and that the Bible is merely a guide. The Catholics have a useful saying here “the church created the Bible, the Bible did not create the church”. Too many people forget that,

    Books are for Devils…

    Stuff and nonsense! Books are for right thinking people everywhere. Emphasis on the “thinking” of course. :)

    He would have put his message in every cell, every, atom, every proton, every neutron, every quark, every squark and right smack bang in the middle of the the Higgs-Boson…

    And I know more that a few scientists who believe exactly that…

  16. Adam says:

    Blast. Clearly forgot to close some italic somewhere. Sorry about that. Can you clean it up for me?

  17. oliver says:

    I for one was raised a strict agnostic. I absolutley am not sure. No but seriously folks, I agree that a fundamental approach to religion has caused a lot of history’s and today’s problems, but let’s not forget that a fundamentalist approach to atheism has it’s fair share of blood on it’s hands too (Nazism, Stalinism…). The problem IMHO is totalitatianism in it’s many guises. In Terror And Liberalism paul Berman puts forward the argument that the problems are caused by the divide which seperates those who want to be ruled from above by an elite (whether a religious law or a man-made one) and those who want to be ruled from below by the people (however impractical that proves to be).

    For me, the guys with the cleanest brass in their house get my vote (or not if their totalitarians). I’ve been cleaning all the brass in my house and it’s really, really difficult and time consuming. Solve that immediate problem for me and I’ll back you all the way to the White House, even the Caliphate.